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make sure you bring the
make sure you bring the energy down to the feet when you finish banging the doll. that can help you sleep. also, t7 on the left is good for any sleep problems, then finish at K1.
enjoy! keep it up with the metabolism points too!
The metabolism or weight
The metabolism or weight loss points are TW16 & 17 on the right side. Some practitioners also add a little GV22.
TW16 &17 are just behind the earlobe and then down and back 2 cm. on the doll. GV22 is on top of the head, slightly behind the hairline.
When I'm too energized to sleep, I meditate and try to make or feel the energy flowing down my legs and out of K1.
Enjoy,
DaveG
Thanks for the help!!! Now,
Thanks for the help!!!
Now, the 2 books I bought do not say "start with X point and finish with the feet" but is that what I should do?? Start with the GV20 and end with K1?? and work on the other issues in between?Huh??
Thanks again
Coleen
Hello Coleen, Yes,
Hello Coleen, Yes, generally all Tong Ren treatments should start by opening the top of the head - GV20 is a good place to start. Then you would work your way down to your areas of concern. For weight loss you want to concentrate on the "metabolism" points as posted by Dave. In addition to that you may also use GB 13 and C2 on the right side for the emotional aspects of weight issues. After you focus on your main areas you always want to descend the energy to either KD 1 a/or LV 3. This is done to avoid the exact symptoms you describe, essentially to avoid being overstimulated by the energy of the treatment.
Chad J. Dupuis, L.Ac.
Yin Yang House Acupuncture and Wellness Center
my girlfriend was told she
my girlfriend was told she has low thyroid function, hypothyroidism, which sounds scarey coming from a doctor after blood tests, but i am sure its not a huge work to clear it up. everyone has one disbalance or another.....
i notice she has low spleen and liver, with pale tougue and white coating and i have been working on SP2,3,4,5,6 amongst others
SP2 interesting corresponds with the reflexology point for the thyroid so seems all roads lead to rome here...
any other pointers on treating hypothyroidism
she gave birth in June 08, so i assume some balancing out in her system also going on right now.
thanks
R.
When you say "working on",
When you say "working on", what do you mean? Acupressure, Acupuncture, Tong Ren Therapy, ...? I'll assume acupressure since you mentioned reflexology. If I'm incorrect, please clarify your question.
First, generally it is not effective to use a string of points like it appears you are doing. Particularly ones that have opposite effects (some of those tonify, some clear damp, some clear heat, etc.) Generally the body won't listen to too many messages so the point choice needs to be clearer. Furthermore, while there are some tongue indications for perhaps SP 3, you also need to consider other aspects of her health and her main complaint in forming a treatment plan. In other words, tonifying the spleen meridian alone will likely not be enough to help her thyroid.
Below is our general protocol for thyroid issues you can use these points with acupressure
Chad J. Dupuis, L.Ac.
Yin Yang House Acupuncture and Wellness Center
Can anyone be more specific,
Can anyone be more specific, for weight loss. Just start with the ear points, Shenmen and with those mention above?
You appear to be asking
You appear to be asking about an acupuncture protocol, whereas this discussion is concerning Tong Ren protocols for weight loss. If you can clarify what modality you are using, I can offer the correct protocol. Although my usual statements regarding people asking for fixed protocols apply here. There is no treatment for "weight loss" per se, but there are treatments for addictions, endocrine issues, thyroid problems, and the host of Chinese Medicine patterns that are common with obesity - spleen yang deficiency, dampness, kidney yang deficiency, liver overacting on the spleen, etc. So, you will need to know exactly what pattern(s) you are treating in Chinese Medicine terms to properly apply acupuncture if that is what you are asking about.
So, please clarify your question and I will offer what I can.
Chad J. Dupuis, L.Ac.
Yin Yang House Acupuncture and Wellness Center
How do I start?
I just got into the Tong Ren Therapy I wanted to try it for infertility, but I dont know how to start I have the points guide but how many times do I tapp or how do I beging. I tried looking up a class for demonstration but could not find anything please help
THanks
In the future if your comment
In the future if your comment is not directly related to the post that you are commenting on, please start a new thread (post) in the appropriate section of our forums.
Learning tong ren is best done in person so if there is a class near you you should attend it or you can watch online at tongrenstation.com. The general instructions, however, are as follows:
Generally you tap the neck points first (sky window points), then up to the head, down the back, down through the legs and end on a descending point such as KD 1 or LV 3. So a treatment might look like tapping LI 17, UB 9, GB 20, T7, L3, UB 54, LV 3 for example. How long is less important, but generally the whole treatment in only 2-5 minutes or so, so just tap each point for a little while based more on your own time constraints than anything else - more is not necessarily better....
Chad J. Dupuis, L.Ac.
Yin Yang House Acupuncture and Wellness Center